Board Thread:Season 51 - The Caribbean/@comment-35624472-20190225211204/@comment-30289320-20190227013750

'''I was willing to let each of ourselves explain our own game without tearing the other persons down. And what did you do during your opening speech and every jury question? Try and tear my game down. You were the one that started this Jake, it was not I.'''

What art thee, a Shakespearean villain? I did not even read your speech before I posted. I wrote it out late the night before, slept a little late, woke up, Wikia deleted it, I had to reformat it real quick, and voila. I'm sorry that you thought my opening statement was attacking you, but that's literally what FTC is. I just do find it funny that you're constantly coming after me and not Andrea, even though she's saying a lot of the same stuff when asked these questions involving the weak points of your game. I'm also pretty sure you've now replied to more of my jury questions complaining than I have to yours, but who's counting!

Sure, you can call it "Luck" that that challenge came up, but that is literally what a lot of survivor is, and to try and criticize me for something we both played in 

I think you took this a little too personally, my dude. I was talking about the way it was bad luck that we didn't get a challenge we could beat you in. For the challenge itself, it was bad luck for me because I barely knew any of the songs. If I knew a lot of the songs, that would have been good luck. If I knew more songs than anyone, that would have been great luck. I'm not trying to criticize you for being lucky, Karsten just wanted to hear a point where I had some bad luck, and not having challenges I was strong in twice in row was what I considered to be bad luck. Sorry if you saw your name and took offense. Might be good to chill out a bit lol

'''You are claiming that I wasn’t in danger, even though I was left out of the vote, but stayed BECAUSE of my social game. So it’s almost like I had people think keeping me was good for their games? I think that would be a positive! '''

That's...that's literally what I just said? LOL. Are you even reading what I'm saying? My point was that you claimed this was where you proved yourself and dug yourself out of a hole, but there was never a hole to begin with. Not only were you in very minimal danger, but you weren't even supposed to be the only one left out. The difference here really was just that I was (and apparently Karsten too) able to get into the know despite people not wanting that. I did not even bring this up, you did.

'''If you want to call someone out for saying that they brought someone to the end because they think they had a better shot against them, you better start calling yourself a hypocrite because you have been saying very similar things during this FTC Jake. '''

But...you're the one that called me out in here? Are you okay, Ethan? Okay, nevermind, I'll just reply. Well, there's actually not much to reply with. I've been very transparent saying I didn't plan on having you here, and that you were a Plan B. I've also been very straight up saying it will be an uphill battle for me. But if your best retort boils down to a "no you", then all the power to ya x

'''This might come as a surprise to you, but I actually respect the games that you and Andrea have played. I did not think by any stretch of the imagination “I wouldn’t have to try” at this tribal council. I knew I was going to have to fight like hell, and I planned on fighting like hell no matter what. '''

Did you really think it would be a hard battle, Ethan? Did you? Ethan? Did you really? Hmmmm.

'''maybe you could come up with some better points other than “He won 2 challenges and that’s bad”. '''

Maybe if you actually read any of what I said carefully instead of combing through for things be upset about, you'd see that I've made more than a handful of points on why I should win over you, in multiple threads. But I know you have, otherwise you wouldn't be trying to attack me as hard as you are lol.

You came up with the first one in the final 8, to claim that you “came up with the idea” and “persuaded” me to use it on you at the final 6 completely false

I was not even talking about this plan, you have no chill LOL. I was talking about both the Natalia-Elmo fake out, which was me. And I was talking about the simple idea to make Elmo paranoid. Which, as you shared in the merge chat yesterday trying to call me out to...Andrea, was also me. But on the topic of your own idol, I'm pretty sure you didn't use it on me? And if I recall correctly, I told you to not use it on me, but this was not something either of us drove, it was something we agreed on. I would not consciously try to take more credit than I deserve. I'm sure you wouldn't either.