Board Thread:Season 14 - Madagascar/@comment-24702957-20140502094447/@comment-24702957-20140503231406

Sami171 wrote: SergiuMntn01 wrote: Sami171 wrote: My move at final 7 was planned; I wasn't acting on impulse nor did I change any plans. I had intended on making that move for awhile. I felt that Craig and I joining a group of 3 (you, Jay and Lincoln) or a group of 4 (Taylor, Charley, Trace and Eddie) put us at the bottom of either alliance so I felt that I needed to act accordingly and make room for myself in someone's final 3. So I eliminated strong players like Taylor and Charley in order to be at the top of an alliance with Trace and Eddie.



You had proved your loyalty to Jay countless times up until that point in the game. You even asked that I go to final 5 with you, Craig, Jay and Lincoln and multiple times you said the plan was to vote out Craig at 5 and then Jay and Lincoln would want to vote me out at 4 but you would tie the vote. That plan left me feeling uneasy because you spoke about wanting to go to the end fans strong but you also asked me to vote out Craig so to me, your intensions were unclear and as the game progressed, I found it more and more difficult to understand your motives and to understand your true intentions. And that was good game play on your part but because I was unsure of where your loyalty lied, I felt it was essential to keep people around who I knew I could predict more easily. Going to the end with you and Craig would have been ideal but, as you told me, you had a tight bond with Jay. I wasn't confident that I would be able to make it to the end with you and Craig so I tried to make a preemptive strike in order to ensure that I would be in the final 3. If that meant going to the end with someone who I viewed as a threat, I was prepared to do that and here I am.



Moving on, you're right, final 5 was the point in the game where I felt the most vulnerable. In the auction I had won the light pearl, an item that would have automatically negated a vote for me. While the light pearl may not have been enough to save me, it would have forced a tie. On the revote, the opportunity to vote me out would have been there but I would have tried, and hopefully succeeded, to persuade someone to vote with me and not against me, whether it had ben before the initial vote or at the revote. I never lost hope and I knew that I had some strong arguments I could make for myself and some angles I could try and work in order to make the vote work out in my favor.



As for my social game, I know that I apologized for my actions a lot, maybe more than I should have, but if you knew me in real life you'd know that I apologize for EVERYTHING. If I accidentally walk into an inanimate object, I apologize. It's in my nature, after all I'm Canadian. (It's a stereotype that Canadians are overly polite and say sorry for everything)



I knew that being a girl in a predominantly male game would put me at a disadvantage. I'm a big fan of the show, and I know that women are held to a different standard over men in the game. I realized that Jay was being perceived as being very cocky by most of our tribe. I don't think that being nice to people put me on the radar and made people want to vote me out, on the other hand, Jay being arrogant is what made people want him out. And that's where I feel that social game is important in Survivor. It's about how you treat others and like I do in real life, I tried to treat everyone with respect in this game. If that meant apologizing for something that I did, then I did it because as people and as players I respect each and every one of you. When I apologized, I apologized on a personal level but on a game level, I can't apologize for the moves that I made because I knew what I did was right for my game. My apologies were only meant to comfort anyone who felt betrayed on a personal level, that's all.

You are a nice girl but not a good liar :), Sam from Survivor has no heart , she is different then Sam from real life :P Remember ? hehe which is good you can do this , I personally cannot or at least not that good as you - here you do have my respect "boy"

But I just try point out you were never actually interested to save Trace instead of me at F7 if you really wanted to save Trace ....well remember I aproached you and ask if you think is better for us to turn now at F7 against Jay or to w8 till F6 and even told you ...what the hell we can work with Eddie also at F6 who the hell would had expect for me and Eddie work toghether ? You agreed is better to hold till F6 and make a move at F6 against Jay ...then you did what you had 2 do which is really strange because you left me on the outside big time and we suposed to be in same alliance ? Not only that you actually destroyed Craig game also as this is why at F6 we voted him and not you, we knew you hav that shitty black perl so we could not even force a tie with you and we were sure we can make you vote Craig at a tie. Even if withouth that item between you and Craig we were more scared "craig might be crazy enough to go to rocks" which makes him a better player then you as he was hard to read by us, you were an easy player we can convince in 10 min not to go to rocks this is why Craig is out and you are in F3 but that move destroyed the other 2 fans game play big time :)

I had to take all the options if I will go against Jay, what if Lincoln would had won all the immunities ? I ask you at F5 are you considering vote Craig if Jay would win immunity ? Voting Lincoln at that time would just make Jay realize he is in danger and work his ass win all the immunities, the great goal was vote Jay out not Lincoln :) . If Lincoln in the finale with us ....so ? :) At F4 if Lincoln would had won immunity and we were me / you / craig and him I am ask if you are willing to offer me a tie with Craig , that was all I asked you :) but you played a good game overall . I just want to admit ( no apologize , no excuses ) that you care less about Jay / Lincoln / Trace / Eddie and your main goal was never to save Trace / Eddie / Lincoln or Jay , the move at F7 was a briliant move to actually win there jury votes and that was it and we both know it :P.

Funny as you are such a bad liar at F7 you were w8 for Craig come online to vote....he didn't show up and because was 2 late you went to sleep :P. At that time were like 5 h till the votes ended and I was staying online and pray for Craig be online and make him change his vote last min .....unfortunetly he came online 10 min after DL but I can just say was one of the funniest things I did in this game, w8 for an inactive to be online and save my ass. Imagine Jay and Lincoln told me 4 h before the votes calm down and not to freak out so much till I don't see the votes :)))) but I can read you well and I can realize you are lieing when you are lieing :P. So just admit it : me Sam had never an intention to save any favorite, I did manipulate them good just for there votes and you are smart for doing it ;) At final 7, it was my intention to work with Trace, Eddie and Craig. You're right, you did approach me about attempting to take Jay out of the game but at the time, I already had my own plan to take him out that I couldn't tell you about. The reason I left you in the dark, was because you already told me how close you were with Jay. I didn't believe that it was a move you were willing to make, I felt like you were trying to get me to admit to wanting him out so you could use it against me.



I don't believe that I screwed over Craig's game. The vote at final 7 did not go as planned, we all know that, but that wasn't necessarily my fault. I also knew that you were more likely to vote for Craig over me because it was quite obvious that I would not go to rocks. You guys didn't convince me to not go to rocks, Eddie and I made the decision. Of course I listened to the points you had to say and took them into consideration but ultimately I made the decision for myself. Like you've told me multiple times, make the best decision for SAM and no one else; and that's what I did.



In reference to what you said about Craig and not being able to talk to him; I always made sure that I was in contact with Craig. I used Skype chat to talk to him where I was able to talk to him far more often than I could have had we only communicated through Facebook. I always ran my ideas by Craig because I knew that I needed him to help me successfully execute my plans. Unfortunately due to confusion about the deadlines and a misunderstanding things didn't turn out as planned. But there was never a time where I voted without having told Craig what I was doing and making sure he was on board with it.



I understand that you had to take every scenario into account when considering voting out Jay, but the way you explained the plan to me didn't make sense. Maybe it was a miscommunication on your part or a lack of understanding on mine but the plan wasn't clear to me. I was uncomfortable going along with something that I wasn't sure of and I felt that I had a better plan to get myself to the end.

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<p style="margin:0in;font-family:Arial;font-size:11.0pt">I realize this isn't the exact answer you're looking for but I feel that it would be inappropriate for me to sit here and lie to you. In all honesty, the vote at the final 7 was not to win over jury votes. Did I ever think "hey this is a bold move that will hopefully gain me a lot of respect from the jury?" Of course! I would be a fool not to think about that! But that's not the reason I made the move. The reason I made the move was because I felt that it would help get me further in the game. I was confident in my relationship with Trace and Eddie and I knew that they would remain loyal until the final 4. I didn't have the same confidence in the other group, that's why I felt it was the best move for me. I care about all of them, and hopefully my friendship with them will continue once the game is over. Like I said earlier I apologized for things on a personal level because I cared about everyone that I played with. But as difficult as it was, I was able to separate my heart from my head in the game. So yes, I did think about jury votes often and I considered how the jury would respond to my moves. But did I ever manipulate someone just so I could get their vote? No.

Ok, thx for your answer. I advices you stop aplogizing for your moves so many times .....till that part when you started again saying sorry you had my vote, now is 50% - 50% just because you need to understand all the moves you did in this game you should not feel sorry .....is just a game Sam , you didin't killed or offend it nobody so I don;t care you are Canadian and this is how you are. I know !!! I love Canadians so much but this is Survivor not Big Brother :) . Try for your own good STOP saying sorry for your moves !!!