Board Thread:Season 46 - Kariba/@comment-29651946-20180414121944/@comment-33060993-20180415080203

Response part two, as promised!! Finally finished the show after like nine hours and will spend tonight and tomorrow getting to the rest of your speeches!! I am so genuinely sorry for the delays - this night was huge for me and I will be giving each of your questions and speeches the attention they deserve soon! Thank you all for your patience! <3

Dan fave, I finally have my answer for your third question, because it took some research and brushing up on some contestants but I'm really grateful for the opportunity to answer it. I kinda went into facts on Hals' response because that was my interpretation of the question, but this is a good chance to elaborate and demonstrate my impressions overall. I’ve seen like half of Survivor, and a lot less BB, so my specific answers might not be great here, but I’m trying my best based to explain based on what I know!! I tried to show two dimensions in my responses - I usually used one player to describe my impression of them, and another to kinda describe a memory/similarity that stood out because it is a fun question and I had fun with y’all this season!!

(In case you haven’t noticed my grammar/vocabulary/cohesion is getting worse because it’s 4 am and I’m mentally exhausted after performing, but i’m

Dan:

Survivor - I want to go with someone like Carolyn for you from a game point perspective because I just feel like you’re really solid and even in all aspects of what composes a survivor player - you have a really natural ability to form connections, a strategic intuition that doesn’t require boldness, but allows you to advance, and a physical game that is note-worthy! A Jack of all trades of sorts!!

Big Brother - Janelle!! I feel like you have a really solid comp game and after your speech, an iconic way of standing your ground while maintaining grace and kindness in a v beautiful manner. What I loved more than anything else about Janelle was watching her loyalty to others, and I feel like from the little bit of your merge game I saw, you exemplified that! I also want to say Bridgette from BB18 because she’s just soooo sweet and il her.

Dovile:

Survivor - After her jury speech, I really want to say Corinne, simply because of her iconic hyperbole: “I would only vote for you if you cut off your hands and fingers”, but I think Tony is kind of fitting for Dovile as well. She was not afraid to go to all ends necessary to secure her safety and overcome odds in this game. People saw the game she was playing, not unlike Tony, but still let her play it for quite some time.

Big Brother - I feel like the other dimension to Dovile is that she survived a target for quite some time and eventually fell short, not unlike the arc Jessica Graf underwent in BB19 wherein she faced a LOT of adversity in the game and ultimately didn’t survive it.

Drew:

Survivor - I thought long and hard about this one, but I legit can’t think of a Survivor player who played the way Drew did - it was just p damn unique and dangerous; I think the best description is my BB comparison, but a decent stretch could be Sarah from Cagayan who was playing every single side as a swing and had the situation backfire?

Big Brother - I know this is going to sound terrible because I hate Paul with a PASSION, but even I have to admit he did a really great job of convincing people he was really close with them, which I think Drew also did an excellent job at doing with his KILLER social game. The only difference was our group was not sheep, so a lot of people lifted eyebrows at the game he was playing. Is that a saying lifting eyebrows? Regardless, his best friend game was addressed with a lot of skepticism. So a likable not an asshole version of Paul for sure. Also, he did refer to himself as the bridesmaid so hdshfjkjhsdf.

Becky/Jordan:

Survivor - Part of me really wants to say Sue Hawk just for how articulate and poetic their jury speech was!! It felt very rats and snakes esque to me. Another solid comparison is Denise Stapley, just because of how well she integrated herself into Kalabaw despite a significant numerical advantage (6v1 / 5v2). Not unlike Denise, Becky/Jordan took a significant tribal line disadvantage and turned it into a strategic benefit using the merit of their social game!

Big Brother - On a more personal note, I’d probably say Janelle as well - just because of some of her iconic quotations that remind me of Becky/Jordan’s. e.g. “she can cook on a flower pot. she’s better.” which actually had me laughing out loud for quite some time or that drag of a certain cast they sent me dsfkhjjkf

Louise:

Survivor - This is a weird one, but I actually really like Natalie White for Louise. It’s really based off my personal opinion of Natalie - that she was really socially stellar, always in the know, able to work both sides, and tragically underestimated since Louise said she’s always ID’d as a goat, so the Touchy Subjects spotlight was surprising for her - BUT ENTIRELY DESERVED fsjhjhsk. Queen Louise was playing a winner’s game and I think Touchy Subjects, coupled with a few other factors, ended that game tragically early!

Big Brother - Didn’t Becky from S17 get hit by a train because I know there was a bus crash at some point in Louise’s life across this season, so they share a similar heartfelt and heartwarming backstory. She survived the bus, so she can survive this too!! Or maybe Bronte dshfskjhdjf less because of actual personality and more because her time in the game was due to her close ally’s mistake. Like Bronte went on Bridgette’s HOH and Louise went to Roisin’s vote steal.

Matthias:

Survivor - I want to say Abi Maria for his iconic blow ups, but if Abi Maria had a lot more social and strategic intuition. I’d go as far as to say a mix between Abi Maria and Cirie Fields. I think Matthias knew exactly what name could cause a group to crack (e.g. suggesting Louise way before immunity results at F7), not unlike Ms. Cirie herself, who used her social perceptions to get herself out of tough situations, but with that added flare Abi Maria had.

Big Brother - Dan held a funeral for himself and Matthias held one for Becky/Jordan, so there’s that similarity - but I think there’s a bit of a difference in the strategic purpose and ultimately, Dan is too boring for Matthias. Another funeral was those three contestants sobbing over Jessie leaving in I think it was S11 and that honestly kinda parallels Matthias popping off in the tribe chat because he lost a friend dsjhkfhkjsd.

Jack:

Survivor - Cirie for his tragic fate sdhjkfhkds. I’d compare him to Jeremy’s game in Second Chances, because he did an astounding job of setting directions and working with threats (e.g. Dovile/Drew) so that they would go instead of him when he was playing equally as solid without being as transparent. I’m still working on his response because I’ve been sooooo busy, but I think a flaw in his game was actually keeping Hals at F7, because people would come for Louise/Matthias/Roisin over him and allow him to survive even longer due to the solid and loyal nature of his game!!

Big Brother - Corey Brooks, Jeff  / one of the males they cast every season for being homophobic. “I hate gay people tho, id never vote for one.” is a direct quote from Jack!!

Hals:

Survivor - I’d definitely say Kelly Wentworth - her loyalty to her allies and underdog arc was impressive asf and speaks to her character as a person!! A true hero within the context of this season and also just her personal life. Her social game can also really be likened to that of Natalie A because she worked well with just about everyone and was really easy to get along with, whether one was working with her or not!

Big Brother - Okay I’ve already said Bridgette but I want to say her again because her loyalty to Frank or the spy girls was really admirable and she was just consistently someone who looked to smile and live her best life and I just associate that with Hals in my head for some reason. Someone who just kinda has it together in a really nice way!! Admittedly I’m a huge Bridgette stan for how she dealt with Paul, so I just keep bringing her up. And also she was such an underdog not unlike our dear friend Hals Reynolds.

And with my 6,000+ words of responses written just for you, I just want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to reach a level of depth I didn’t get into with my speech. It’s been a pleasure interacting with you again and I hope we can talk again soon!!

Now, to Ms. Roisin:

I'll just go into your concerns and claims and your perceptions about my response, because it's pretty clear you're feeling defensive. I noticed you ignored quite a bit of it, but choices and all. First and foremost - Here are my receipts btw, because i'm not here for that "totally untrue" clownery you said.
 * 1) I broke down legit my entire course of action across the Matthias vote in my response and how my campaigning to secure Vincent's and Jack's votes worked above sdfjhkhjkfs. Like I did a breakdown of play by play on how I maneuvered that vote, including the lies planted and the rationale behind my arguments and how that translating into locking votes for my target, so please don't try to pretend otherwise. You did also campaign for Matthias to go, but it was just simply less effective for the overall outcome. Jack was concerned you would/could screw us over and didn’t trust you and Vincent came to me later, stating that he would still prefer Jack to Matthias after you mentioned the idea to him, forcing me to campaign and get him on board by explaining the safety argument. After this, you created an alliance chat for votes that were already locked on Matthias.

EXCERPT 1 - Directly threw Matthias’ name out before Roisin campaigned to myself or Vincent.

Jake

matthias leaked to jack that i'm throwing his name. matthias doesn't know i know. jack doesn't know i know. but it's a play against me so i think we shouldn't do that kfhjsjk

Vincent

We shouldn't go with Jack or we shouldn't formally include Matthias?

Jake

go with jack

or include matthias

Vincent

Do you want to vote Matthias?

Jake

tbh yeah

like we could've worked with him but it's clear he has other plans

EXCERPT 2 - Started the plan to reaffirm Jack’s loyalty by planting a lie that placed the initiative on Matthias and feigned loyalty/trust.

Vincent

so Matthias approached Hals

but it was inconsequential

Jake

ok that's interesting

DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO

to get jack back with us

Vincent

Wasn't Jack always with us

Jake

he might not be if he thinks i'm coming for him?

Vincent

I thought you said he wasn't really that phased by what Matthias said

Jake

i think he could be?

Vincent

he probably would be

I still don't see why voting Jack is suddenly a bad idea now that he knows about it

Jake

if you told him something like "jake came to me and said matthias had this idea to go for you, but jake was v uncomfortable with that, tried to play it off, and now wants to go matthias"

Vincent

well the main issue is probably not that Jack knows but that Matthias leaked it

Jake

yess

but i think we could play it off and spin it into matthias starting it

not us

Vincent

but Matthias is a goat I don't want to vote him out

Jake

i could too, but it'd be more credible coming from you

but like, we're not going to find the votes for jack

EXCERPT 3 - Finally sold Vincent on the vote where Roisin failed to; he walked into the conversation saying despite what she wanted, Jack was his personal preference and walked out wanting to vote Matthias to keep us safe.

Vincent

I don't mean to distract you from the report but Roisin wants to vote Matthias

Jake

i know dshjfkjfs

what do u think

Vincent

It's between him and Jack

Jake

i'd say he's the easiest route tbqh

Vincent

Personally I would prefer to vote Jack but Matthias is almost as good

And would be way easier

Jake

i know that's where i'm at

matthias is a lot easier

and there are really only four options - me, you, jack, and matthias - so i'd rather go with the easiest than have this blow up at us

Vincent

But I feel like I could beat Matthias

Jake

but idt you'd make it to the end if matthias stays

and legit - i think if we go for jack, i get voted out

EXCERPT 4 - Had a conversation with Jack where I reaffirmed loyalty, denied involvement, and he explicitly stated he trusted me/Vince and not Roisin, indicating a lack of efficiency with her “intiative”

Jake

exactly which is v concerning for us

i think he'll just try to find a third and go for like you or i

Jack

He’s telling me you’re targeting me which i HOPE isnt tru

Jake

OMFG

que

i’m shook legit you’ve been like my rock in the merge and i would not throw that away to someone i’ve snaked several times like he brought up your name

and i played along but no ma’am no i couldn’t

Jack

Ya i dont like matthias’ snaky bitch attitude so we gotta get him out here i think

Jake

same

Jack

okay mood he's rly going for me

but roisin's not with hals/matthias here im p sure

Jake

idt she is at all

Jack

which is a blessing

we've got the numbers here

im feeling like im gonna die but i trust you and vincent here and i dont see why roisin would do all this if she's gonna help blindside me

matthias hates all 3 of us (me you vincent) so idk why any of us would flip to him tbh

Jake

i get it!! we’ve all had our turns on the block and it’s never cute and so nervewracking but we’ll be okay i’m sure!!

exactly he’s legit a snake with no concern for our well-being in this game which is why it’s so important that we have each other

Jack

yeah he's rly trying to get us to flip on each other and im so not here for it

the only worry is if roisin fucks us

Jake

true and idt she will. she'll flip back to hals next round because her game is basically flipping back and forth, but for now she knows moving forward with them is a recipe for disaster with her game.

plus i think she feels bad abt louise. like she realizes it was v bad for her game.

2) and I'd totally place the initiative for Becky/Jordan on Louise, who I talked with about the five votes that would be on Becky/Jordan that round, and why it would be them about an hour or two before you and I did, where for me the plan was set. You can talk about how “making the chat” makes it your initiative and influence, but when the votes were already locked before you made that chat, was it initiative or confirmation? In my opinion, it was a formality and not a decisive moment at all. You both flipped, so I roped you in together in that response as "they" - but make no mistake that I think Louise led your duo; there's a reason it was her they came for her at F8 and not you.

3) I think you misunderstood me. Did you set the target? Ever? Or did you just pick? Were you the one who threw Drew’s name or did you follow another person’s plan? Because you yourself cited Matthias as the one vote you felt YOU did, and even that’s relatively questionable because your execution was undermined by reluctance to trust or listen to you by the people you voted with. Creating a chat on top of locked votes isn't initiative/influence, it's just confirmation and to claim otherwise is not accurate! (see above).

and yes I’m very tired, so I’ll be off to bed now! Thank you Roisin, for giving me some more opportunity to explain my own strengths and respond to your rebuttals. I might follow-up in the morning when I haven’t spent three hours typing after being out for eight hours djhfskjf because honestly my brain isn't functioning rn. Nonetheless - I think your sudden shift to trying to explain/defend your initiative and influence in this response is relatively revealing on what you think you lack amongst other things. I expect a response from you on this, but I'll be shifting my attention to the jurors and their impressions now, because a busy schedule has prevented me from doing so, but I'll be back to talk after that if you still feel it necessary!

Overall - good night faves! See you in nine-ish hours and looking forward to responding to some more questions! <3