Board Thread:Season 37 - Archetypes/@comment-24603302-20161211235421

Hello!

First off from the bottom of my heart I want to sincerely congratulate all three of you for making it to day 39. You beat twenty-one 2 time, 3 time and even 4 time players in this game and no one can take that away from you, and for that you all should be very proud of yourselves regardless of the outcome of this vote.

However, that does not mean every juror feels the same way, and that does not mean each individual game the three of you played was fantastic by any means. You all had your faults, and the last thing any of you should be thinking is that you're going to run away with this, because you all fucked up in many areas of this game to be honest, and yes that might sound hypocritical coming from me being that I'm no angel myself when it comes to playing survivor the right way due to how I played in java, but I have changed and I truly don't believe I played a terrible game socially/strategically/physically this time, so I don't think it's hypocritical of me to say that.

For my speech I'm going to be giving each of you three a different segment, I'm going to be giving each of you some statements and questions, and it's your choice how you want to respond!!!

Let's start with Brett!

BRETT:

Brett I can honestly say I am very proud of the game you played myself, I think you played a great game and got all of the people out of this game who would've beat you in the end, and you went with the two people in my opinion that will give you the best chance of winning this game, so I congratulate you on that. I do have issues and questions for you that I need to address though, so let's get to it !

Firstly I'd like to address the fact that you've been criticized a lot for some of the strategic decisions you made along the way in voting people out who were loyal to you. For me I don't really see it as an issue being that the moves you made have sat you in the end and the people you took out would have beaten you in jury votes, but a lot of the jury does see it as a problem, so you're going to need to defend your decisions and really explain it well to people, and if you don't do that you might not win this game !

Next I'd like to address our history. Obviously we both played in the bbcan org together, obviously we both were a bit of rivals in that game and in my opinion I believe it had an affect on this game. I've heard that you said that the one thing you want to do in this game is outlast me because of our history, and I want to know why exactly you came into this game with that mindset of letting our past history have an affect on the game, and if you didn't, explain to me why my perception is wrong, because I genuinely don't believe you formed a relationship with me and I believe every conversation we had was completely fake and it was because of you allowing our past history having an impact on how you wanted to interact with me.

FINALLY, the last thing I need to bring up with you is a comment I heard you made about me. I'm not going to say who told me this, but I was told after I was voted out that you had made a comment about how I was using my anxiety/panic attacks as leverage as a way to move forward in this game and gain sympathy. I want to make it clear to you that I've been officially diagnosed with multiple anxiety disorders that have had a large impact on my life and I've struggled for 10 years with anxiety. Not once was I ever faking having anxiety or a panic attack as a way to move forward in this game, and it genuinely doesn't feel good to know something you suffer from was being used as a way to target you. I want to know why you felt the need to make an assumption like that on me, and if you didn't and your comment was misconstrued, please explain the context of the comment you made so I have a better understanding of what actually was said.

JARED:

Jared I'll tell you that as of right now I can't see myself voting for you. However, I will say you are one of the best UTR players I've ever played with and I'm not surprised you're sitting in the end because of it. So while I don't know if I'll vote you unless you can sway me, I will applaud you for being the only winner left in this game and for never being voted out on the main org!!! I do have some issues with exactly how you got here and why you think your game is deserving of a win, so let's get to it!

My first issue with you Jared is that in your opening speech you claimed that you yourself were able to not put a target on your back by your gameplay which is why you were never perceived as a threat, and that you used your "sheep" status to your advantage. I want to make it clear that I don't believe you yourself were actively making it so you weren't perceived as a threat or a target, because you rarely talked to people and I heard you went days and days without talking to some people which I know was also true with me in that you rarely spoke to me. Not talking to people is different in my opinion from making yourself out to not be a target by actively having conversations with people to do that. I don't know if you really should be rewarded in an all-star game for the UTR game you played and for making yourself so closed off from having conversations with anyone other than your alliances and people you were working with. Closing people off is never a good idea, so I want to know for my first question why you believe that by not talking to people you should be awared with the win against two people who actively tried to talk with everyone.

Next I'd like to bring up the arguments I've seen you getting into with people, and while they were entertaining to see shit going down in game, I want to know if that was really entirely "strategy" like you claimed part of it was in your speech, or was it mainly just you having had enough with people and wanting to speak your mind and go off on people you've had problems with. So for my second question was it partly strategy like you claimed, or was it entirely personal like my perception of it is.

Last but not least, we're going to discuss your relationship/alliance with Jamie. There has been a perception on you for quite some time Jared that Jamie was leading you around and playing the game for you. I mean, I know for me at least I had no relationship with you really because you always were so closed off whenever I tried to talk to you, and all of my "conversations" with you in trying to find out what you were doing were always filtered through Jamie. While it's a strategy to be perceived as a sheep so you don't get targeted, I feel like you were well aware of the perception of everyone that you were her sheep and you did absolutely nothing to try to get that perception away from you knowing that a jury is going to be rewarding someone with the win of an all-star season. You didn't have to target her or get rid of her to have that perception be taken away from you, simply talking to other people and making yourself available and letting it be known you are your own player would've been enough, and you didn't really ever do that in game when it counted and I don't know why you expect people to be so willing to just be like "oh it was his strategy whatever he deserves to win!" with a jury speech. It's hard to break through perceptions and it requires time and a hell of a lot of effort to do that, and perception is reality to people and unfortunately for you Jared votes are due on Wednesday and you don't really have much time. You had all merge to break that perception and you simply ignored it, so my question to you is why you chose to enter a final tribal council with that perception still attached to you.

Jared If you can COMPLETELY convince each and every juror why you allowed that perception to stay with you and why you chose to ignore the social part of this game and expect to get votes in the end, you may get my vote and others.

JAMIE:

Jamie I've saved you for last because I have a lottttt of issues with you not only personally, but how you played the game overall, so let's just get to it.

I first want to address your opening speech in which you referred to me as "bitter" two times. I'm not bitter with you Jamie, in fact you made the right decision to get both yourself and Jared to the end so strategically I cannot be bitter with you. I was openly campaigning to you with what I wanted to make your perception out to be which was that Brett would flip to Alexa/Claire if you didn't save me as it was the only chance I had at staying in the game, you made the right decision to get rid of me strategically so I cannot be bitter and was never bitter over it, however you calling me bitter when I'm not isn't really a great way to try to get my vote.

Next while we're on the topic of my boot I want to talk about my issues with how it went down. You shared with me something very very very very personal which I'd never repeat and I also shared with you something very very very personal which I hope you would never repeat either. A lot of my personal issues with how my boot went down is the fact that I feel like you shared something with me to try to get ahead in the game and not because you genuinely wanted to share it with me on a friendship level. I took what you said Jamie and I literally cried over it because I was so touched and honored and I never would've voted against you personally because of it, and I feel like it was all just you trying to forward yourself in the game and not because you wanted to share it with me because I'm your friend, that's the part that hurts. The other issue I have with how my boot went down is the fact that you wouldn't even allow me the opportunity to campaign for myself to stay in a game I cared about so fucking badly. The night that it happened you basically sent me to bed with false hope that maybe you would be swayed and think about it, and the next day while I sat for hours trying to campaign to you on facebook, you ignored all of it because you didn't want to deal with me. Do you know how much THAT sucks? Do you know how hard it is to not even be given a chance because you refuse to listen to me because of your own personal feelings over it? You're the one who voted against me, I did everything in this game for you I removed the target from your back multiple times and always helped you out, and you couldn't even give me the chance to plead for my life and instead I needed to run to you on skype in the last hour because I had no choice, and to know that in that last hour you wanted to try to save me because I was actually getting to you and convincing you sucks because had you just been a friend and respected me as a player you would've allowed me to campaign to you on facebook and would've read it earlier and I might've been able to save myself. I feel like I did everything I could to help you knowing how much this game meant to you by saving you multiple times and helping you move forward, and the last thing you could've done in return is allow me to plead for my life. That hurts, and calling me "bitter" because I personally was upset over how it all went down does nothing to help the situation and in all honesty only digs yourself into a deeper hole with me.

The next thing I need to talk about is the self-isolation that I feel and a majority of the jury feels you and Jared both did. You play the victim and victimized yourself constantly, but when you make it out that you/Jared are together and against everyone else, is everyone supposed to be running back to you to try to help you or are they supposed to work against you like you basically are implying they should by isolating and victimizing yourselves? Playing the victim doesn't work especially when you're far from it and got yourselves into the position you were in with Jared by making people against you. I mean I can recall countless times that you would rant to me about how mean Alexa/Ash were and all of the petty bullshit you would say about how you'd be "personally offended" if they outlasted you in this game and all of the little comments you would make about how you wanted to steal alexa's vote so she "couldn't have the satisfaction of voting you" and wanting charley gone so she couldn't get the most days played and all of the shit about Ash being a freak like it wasn't fucking necessary and because I couldn't do anything but appease you I couldn't tell you how I really felt and how I actually didn't think they were all that bad. You made this game personal with them in my opinion and you put yourself and Jared in the position where they were against you by constantly making yourselves out to be the victims, yet you would go off and attack them publicly when you had the power because you weren't in danger of going home and they were which was just rubbing salt in their wounds.

Finally the last thing I heard that I'm not too fond about is how you basically pleaded with Alexa at the final 5 that she shouldn't vote you out and you can't win and all this crap about how this is your last game and you want to make it to the end so badly, meanwhile you already knew she was going home. Like I don't know why you felt so entitled to basically say "don't vote me even though im voting you because I deserve this" which is how it came across to her. In fact that's the attitude you had with me for a large portion of the game in my opinion how you felt you were more deserving than anyone else of making it to the end and how people should hand you a seat at the end. I'll have you know I wanted this badly, I'll have you know everyone on this jury wanted this badly, and I'll have you know all 13 pre-jurors all wanted this badly as well, and just because you played three times prior to this and didn't make it to the end any of the times doesn't mean everyone should automatically hand you this or should hand anyone else this. We were all here for the same reasons, no one is better than anyone else and should act like they deserve it more.

Now I know I've been harsh with you Jamie but I can say to you I respect the amount of effort you put into this game not only in strategizing, but in every challenge, I respect the fact that you made it to the end in your 4th and final game, and I respect the fact that you outplayed me. It's the ways you went about all of these things is where I'm not pleased and other people aren't very pleased with you, and you shouldn't sit here and say in your speech "if the jury isn't bitter I played the best game and should win" because the social component is vital in getting jury votes and the way you make people feel game wise and emotion wise is what votes are going to be based on. Human beings are emotional people, and when you add a game like Survivor to it it just amplifies those emotions, and if you're not delicate and don't go out of your way to make it so you aren't pissing people off, then they will be pissed off with you, and I know that from first-hand experience in almost losing Java because of how I treated people. You cannot sit here and act like people shouldn't be "bitter" which is not the case at all when you give people reasons to be upset with you and Jared both. I love you as a friend, we will always be friends even after this and I'm so proud of you for making it to the end and regardless of what I said on an emotional day of me trying to plead for my life, I swear I will always be your friend even after this is over. I'm not happy with you in some of the things you did, but you will always be my friend Jamie.

I don't have any specific questions for you Jamie, if you want my vote you need to really work for it at this point and seriously sway me by responding to everything I've said.

FINAL QUESTION:

The last question/thing I want you guys to do is redo your rites of passages for all 21 boots of this game, and I don't want you to half-ass it, I want you to be real because I wasn't very pleased with how you guys did yours, it all seemed very fake and none of it was real. I know what you three have all said about other people in this game, and your rites of passages wasn't it. Make real true statements for all 21 people who were voted out, and if they're not real and from the heart whether it's good or bad statements, I'm telling you right now you will not have a chance at getting my vote!

The last thing I want to say is thank you so so much to the hosts for bringing me back to play again, we know all of the shit szy did against me and how he didn't want me here and I really do appreciate you guys for giving me another opportunity to prove I'm not the same person I was in Java, and I hope I was able to do that so thank you again for this chance.

Thank you also to the viewers for watching, I don't know how active the vl is but I'm very excited to read the supportive/negative comments about me and everyone else when we're all added!! I hope you've enjoyed watching and please regardless of how you feel for the final 3, congratulate them on a good game because they did what 21 people who were cast and like 80+ people who applied but weren't cast couldn't, they made it to the end so congratulate them!!!

To the players both jury/pre-jury I so enjoyed playing with and getting to know everyone I had the opportunity to play with < 3

Aaaand finally to the final 3, once again, congratulations on making it to the end!!

Byeeee Archetypes!! 