Board Thread:ORG After Show/@comment-8249209-20140105224810



Charley: Alright guys, so we are here with two special guests, Brendan and Jimmy Burke! First of all, how are you guys?



Jimmy: I've never been better.



Brendan: Better than Skandi and Ali are, that's for sure.



Jimmy: Yeah, I can't say I'm surprised at their eliminations, but that has to hurt.



Charley: Well before we get into all stars, how was your guys time playing on the org?



Brendan: Since I played first, I should probably be the first to talk. I feel the Nepal cast was too unbalanced from a geographical point of view. Half my tribe was from California, and they formed an alliance on Day 1. Once that happened, I was screwed. As for Revival, I feel that my biggest mistake was not getting rid of Luke when I had the chance. Gerard and I were worried that Luke would have played his idol and idoled one of us out, so we voted Jastine instead. And then I mutinied and Luke backstabbed me. And then I quit watching the season. In protest.



Jimmy: *groans*



Charley: Alright, Jimmy how was your season?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: For me, I had a lot of things going on in my life during Cote d'Ivoire, including chronic migraines, so it wasn't an enjoyable time for me in general. I still managed to strategise my way past the first 3 eliminations, but my tribe turned on me because of the impending tribe switch.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: That's a lie, Jimmy. The Careers had the majority at that point.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: You can think of it the way you want to.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Well you were both out pre merge, was it just bad luck?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: The whole "Ash is a sockpuppeteer" incident kind of ruined my chances of making the merge. Turned out the real sockpuppeteer was RP.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: The Careers alliance formed partially because of my behind the scenes machinations, so it wasn't all just luck. I knew I was doomed, and I took it in stride.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Since Brendan brought it up, why did you accuse Ash of being a sock puppet?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Because I thought Ash and Hoenn were too close to be two separate people.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: And it turns out you were wrong.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: And "Ash Crimson" is a character from King of Fighters.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Okay, well anything else you two would like to say about your seasons?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: You know about cheating first-hand, so it's odd of you to throw around accusations for no reason.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: So let's change the topic. All-Stars.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: I have to congratulate more than just one person from Cote. The entire final 4 played nearly flawless games, but only one of them could win.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Oh, we're still talking about Cote?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: So it's a good thing that All-Stars has given Sharky another chance.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: It's like the Tocantins of the ORG, if you know what I mean.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Okay, well let's get onto all stars then. Skandi was the first person voted out, were you surprised?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: As I've already said, I wasn't very surprised.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Skandi has a reputation, sort of like the one I had in Revival. I wasn't really surprised.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: Skandi deserved a second chance, but so did everyone else on All-Stars.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin- bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Best to ditch the backstabber first.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: So reputation was the deciding factor.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Do you think that the constant hyping about Skandi screwed him over in the game?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: Yes. Absolutely.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.45cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: I think so.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: So do you think that Skandi was put into a position that he couldn't get out of?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Having been in that position myself, I say yes.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: I was hyped before my season, and it put me in an early hole. I almost got out of it, but Skandi wasn't as lucky. It had to be someone, so it made sense for it to be Skandi.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: So before we talk about Ali, let's look back at the immunity challenge.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Alright, what did you think of it?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan:  seems like I'm not the only one who's cursed in this challenge. My tribemates are cursed too.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Gerard's lost 3 times now, and Ash has lost twice.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Jimmy, anything to add?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: Neither Brendan nor I have had good luck on it, even in other games. That in itself is surprising, considering I'm usually good at those types of challenges.Someone always has to lose.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Let's move on to Ali then, we can come back to Skandi in a little bit, but he is the second person voted out. Was that surprising?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Well, now he can make MORE EDITS.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: Ali did well in Egypt, but this isn't the same game it was back then. The game is more social and strategic, with less to be gained from winning challenges. Maybe that meant he was seen as a threat.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Do you think if he was given time he could've adapted?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Both Skandi and Ali played pre-MaJi. Considering how much Nepal and Revival changed the way the game was played, I'm not sure. Just to clear up a misconception: In Nepal, I didn't play for a Revival spot, I played for the win both times I played.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: And you failed miserably both times.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: I was an alternate for Revival, I got in because someone else dropped out. I wasn't one of Alfons's first choices.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Let's get back on track with all stars, do you think we will see a third time for Skandi or Ali?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: No, they had their second chances and they failed.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: I think Ali deserves another shot. He was put on a tribe that he couldn't play his best game with, so he should get to show what he can do.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: I'm not personally fond of Ali, considering he broke the number one rule of hosting: You should NEVER leak game information to the players. I knew about the late merge. Ali told me on Day 5.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: That's irrelevant for him playing again.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin- bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: But it shows he can't be trusted.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: Skandi is done. Nobody would let him get to the merge. He's too much of a villain.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Same with me, I'm not playing for a third time unless it's in a HvV where my whole tribe are villains.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Do you think Skandi has a chance for heroes vs villains?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: Maybe, but I wouldn't count on it.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: If he makes it, he'd be the second coming of Orange.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Well, the tribe breakdown happened, and there was a tribe of winners, was that a good move for the hosts?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: Yes. It eliminates the anti-winner bias that tends to show up in All-Star seasons. Once a tribe switch happens, they may stop dropping like flies.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Given that the real Survivor: All-Stars had a huge anti-winner bias, I think this was a good move.The only way to prevent the winners from being a minority is to put all of them on the same tribe.With that said, I think they'll be pagonged at the merge, since assuming we merge at 12 the best they can do is a 6-6 tie.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: By then, nobody will care that they are winners. The current game will take priority at that point.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Alright, well we gotta wrap this up. for this season I will not be asking who is your prediction to win, but my final question is, who are you happiest to see return?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: I'll pick someone from my own season: Sharky.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin- bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Uli. Since Luke won't have the votes record anymore.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Alright, well thanks for coming on!

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin- bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: One last thing, Brendan: A "Battle of the Burkes" season has been proposed.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Let me end this with a little promo. 39 days. 20 people. No tribes. ONE SURVIVOR!

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: Anarchy will pale in comparison to "Battle of the Burkes." Are you up for it?

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Hell yeah.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Charley: Alright, thanks guys!

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.34cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Brendan: Thanks Charley.

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<p style="margin-right:0.13cm;margin-top:0.45cm;margin-bottom:0cm;border:1ptsolidrgb(0,0,0);padding:0.05cm;">Jimmy: Thanks for having us on!

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