Board Thread:Season 39 - Morocco/@comment-29162419-20170403020210

Tbh I was going to make a video speech but I literally keep losing my train of thought and can't manage to record without stuttering like a dunce so this will do I suppose

First of all congrats guys, you made it to the end in one of, if not the most respected and professional org there is out there and there's no way I could diminish that or lowball your games for it because it's a shitty feeling and I hate being in it myself, I don't speak for the entire jury though and there's people here who will willingly tear you guys a new arsehole.

A thing I have to say I respect about both your speeches though is your willingness to accept when you fucked up as far as the treatment of Kristen and Whitney. When I came to jury I came to the realization that I was an asshole to them in this game, and a complete asshole too considering my behaviour in the tribe chat paled in comparison to the shit I said behind people's backs and I didn't realize how wrong I was until after the game, and you guys were able to both recognize that, even if it took sitting in front of a jury to say it, it takes balls to admit you're wrong and I like that both of you came to terms with it because I'm not sure if I would've been capable of doing the same. While I don't think we were as bad as Sumbawa who made racist/homophobic comments, the way Zak put it all into perspective makes sense.

I get that it's a game and we all say shit we don't mean but we (I know as well as anyone :/) went too far sometimes

In hindsight I'm also glad that we have the final three we have because if any combination of Aras/Brett/Tate/Will sat next to Anna/Romain, we'd automatically lose three jury votes because honestly we were being socially fucking stupid. But this final tribal situation is more objective in a sense (not a slide against Anna/Romain or Kristen/Zak/Whitney, I just appreciate the jury vote more when it's an objective one) but I mean we would've deserved it for our social obliviousness

I mean lol it's hard to get someones jury vote if you call them a sock of miss Jamie Franzel/call them illiterate/say their vote doesn't matter

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Anyway, moving on more to the game. Like I previously stated both of your speeches were good, I didn't really have much issue with either of them because they were mostly accurate.

I'll start with Will. Dude you played a good fucking game and I have to give credit where its due because I really underestimated you, I expected to be able to come into the mid-merge phase and would be able to blindside you with no problems and shit I was wrong, I didn't realize you were ahead of me and how much your influence led to Anna/Brett/Romain basically fearing me going to final five.

Despite the logic of voting you out before final five (the last time any potential idol could be played, keep in mind there was NOT an idol clue at the bazaar and you already had found an advantage on the grid showing how thoroughly you searched) you had the social game to let you make it through and allow you to use your idol correctly.

Needless to say, and you know this so good on you - you played pretty far from a perfect, or even a great game and some of your moves to me, either didn't make sense or were poor strategic moves, which leads me into my questions

QUESTIONS FOR WILL

1) Your vote steal wasn't mentioned at all in your speech. Though you ended up not needing it, don't you think it would've been more convenient going deep with the vote steal on your side? At the same time you had an idol so it was expendable, but after the fuckup (not sure if that was legit or not) at the Kristen vote off you were pretty much handed an opportunity by not having your advantage used/straight up not using it.

Were you comfortable with wasting it for similar reasons that Tate wasted his idol?

2) You mentioned sabotaging the split vote on Whitney and Kristen, but I don't really get what you mean? Did you intentionally save Whitney for some reason unbeknownst to anyone else?

3) Time for some hypothetical "what if" plays, I'll give you a situation and you tell me how you think it goes down:

F11, say Najma doesn't throw the challenge to keep me safe. Who goes home? I know you pushed Anna and Zak a bit to vote me over Malik but I'd just like to know if I'd have made merge had we lost and would it have been Romain going home? Or would say, Zak have been blindsided?

F8, say the vote becomes an all out Zak vs Will war as opposed to Zak willingly voting Brett... who sides with who?

F6, say I'm not a fucking dumbass and I stay up for the challenge a couple more hours to claim my immunity necklace (which I thought I'd won but I fell asleep before Trent answered my question rip) who goes home if I was immune? I would assume Brett but you may surprise me

F3, you win final immunity instead of Tate, who goes home? I'm aware you and Anna were really good friends and had a great bond since something like the Dalton vote off, but she probably would've beat you in the end and I think you know it. Do you pull a Colby Donaldson or no?

'''Now for Tate. '''Honestly if I had a checklist of all the things I wanted you to say regarding your "Vote for tate!" speech, I'd say you pretty much hit all of them so good job. You had an admittedly simple strategy and it paid off and got you to the final two and I don't see anything wrong with that. Like, not to sound conceited but my path through the pre-merge was probably harder than your path through the overall game.

This is kind of a backhanded compliment I guess, I mean you clearly had the social game to only be targeted when you legit called someone a sock (literally, there was a chance Zak or even like, Will gets blindsided at f9 had it not been for you pissing of Whitney which inadvertently prevented a messier vote because there was no reason to vote you out at the time)

But yeah, there's something to be said for being an established threat since people knew that you won Canadienne and yet you still could slide through on social skills and late game immunity wins, while a rookie like Will couldn't do that so it's really up to perception on what's superior

QUESTIONS FOR TATE:

1) There was a lot of mention of that Harry Truman alliance in your speech, I figured that meant the alliance between you, Roodman, Romain and Will and not the main merge alliance, as someone who started on Najma all the ambiguity was rather confusing to read. Was there any secondary alliance that was an adapted Harry Truman alliance in the merge? I heard through the grapevine of yours and Romain's f2 and that Brett kind of third wheeled on that to an extent.

2) If the Harry Truman alliance was preserved, did it have any impact at all on you taking Will to the end? Or is that merely a coincidence

3) If Anna really was the bigger threat than Will, what was the justification in voting out Will at final five? Obviously at final four Anna had immunity but you could've had more control of the end game had you done this, was the intention to be flashy for the jury or something?

4) Similar to Will I'll give you some hypothetical situations and I'd like for you to give me your two cents into how you think things would've gone in that situation

F13, Malik goes home over Dalton on Zibaq 2.0 and then Dalton and I both somehow make merge, how the hell does merge go and who would be the targets then? You and Dalton were friends in Quebec and his villainous gameplay was well known, and the other tea is... Brett, Dalton, Scott and I were majority at one point on Najma so yeah some crazy shit would of had to happen but I've honestly wondered about this ever since Dalton went home

F9, when you were targeted by Kristen and Whitney, and someone flipped on you, first of all, who do you think was most likely to flip on you and second, how do you think the game changes for that person?

F3, lowkey a two part question. Say you lose final immunity and you get 3rd, and we get an Anna vs Will friendship finale, would you do what I think you'd do and campaign for Anna to win? Or is voting her out merely a reflection on what you think the JURY thinks? Also, does the person who wins final immunity affect your vote in this situation?

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LOL sorry for the shit loads of questions guys, I'm only going to ask a few more I promise I just love this shit

QUESTIONS FOR BOTH

1) I think this season will be remembered for its controversial scandals, there were so fucking many. So which do you think will be most memorable and/or funny? Some that come to mind for me are like

7,875,905,975,691,288,504 (this imo was anti-climactic bc the lamp was lame)

The screenshot controversy with Whitney, Kristen and I (lol)

The tribal council with no immunity (rip)

Whitney being accused of being Jamie by Tate (kek)

I'm sure you can probably think of more with all the crazy that happened this season LMFAOO

2) I feel like with all the Argentina hype there's been talk about returnees for sure, and I think nearly everyone on the jury and even some pre-jurors are deserving of returning whether it be for Second Chances, FvF, Game Changers, All-Stars, I'd like to see how you'd sort everyone between the types of returnee seasons

3) Because I loved Tate's idea of comparing everyone in the game to an animal (or robot lol Scott), I'd like to see y'all compare the jury (you can do the entire cast if you want but I've already asked a shit ton of questions lmfao I'm such a chav)

4) This is an easy one, what is your favourite colour and why? I didn't start on the same original tribe as you guys so I couldn't be arsed to ask you stupid questions like this haha.

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BIG TIME RESPECT IF YOU GUYS ACTUALLY ANSWER ALL OF THESE IM NOT ANTICIPATING IT BC THIS IS LONG AND EXTRA FKHJGSDHLKJYUGL 