Board Thread:Season 11 - Polynesia/@comment-10863763-20131221073751/@comment-10863763-20131221204130

Guzrineas wrote: this is the problem I am having; I think your best move in the game happened early when you got Val to flip so you had numbers, it was a great move and regardless of how it happened you pulled that off. But from that point on you never really made any strategic moves that got you to the end (which is fine). Then in your statement you contradicted yourself, saying that no one ever wanted you out until it was too late but right before that you said you had to make a fake idol to take the target off of your back.

'''Jay, i did make plenty of strategic moves. Playing the idol. Voting Aaron so you don't play the idol on him. Taking Maya out. I had to ensure I had the numbers, and just because I set myself up for that doesn't mean it wasn't strategic. '''

You also claimed to be loyal to your original alliance, but that was only until you didn't need them anymore (you took out Bob and Maya when it was most convenient for you) I'm not saying it is a bad thing but you played one game and are trying to paint yourself as playing another now.

'''I agree with you, but that's what they did to me! Bob tried taking me out, and i was loyal to them until they flipped. I've told you over and over how I was, and if you don't believe me I guess that's what I get for lying in this game, nothing I can do now.'''

You also keep implying to people that if they don't vote for you they are being bitter (you specifically said it to Aaron) but I don't think you would lose because of a bitter jury, I think that would go to Val.

'''Aaron is upset with me for reasons I don't find justifiable. And I think you should vote for the best player, Aaron's the only one I called bitter. '''

The "photo shopping" a conversation isn't cheating, I just always looked at it as a dirty way to play the game. You claim that people shouldn't be mad at your for lying/betraying because in real survivor it is done and looked upon as great gameplay, yet in real survivor I don't think it is possible to show someone something that never happened. Strategy is being able to sway people into doing what you want by what you say to them, not by showing them things that never happened. There is a difference between lying and saying "Maya told me she wants you out" and you altering a conversation and showing someone that she said it.

'''Here's how I look at it. Everyone knows you can alter a conversation, and if they didn't they did when I made the fake idol. It's the same as he-said she-said. Is it dirty? Honestly, depends on how you look at it. I did do it, and I'm not backing away from that. I did what it took to get me further and gain the trust of others, but my game shouldn't be based off of a silly website. I only did that a handful of times, and it never even affected outcome other than the fake idol.'''