Board Thread:Season 51 - The Caribbean/@comment-30202274-20190225194223/@comment-4184065-20190226183436

Heyo Elmo. Thanks for your compliment of my social game and saying that you didn’t see me as disingenuous! But in this game I definitely screwed up in some of my jury management as others have pointed out, but I do feel like we did have a really good bond in this game even when we weren’t working together anymore. You’re right about the whole me and Yousef (and even you) having this kind of “let’s keep threats in the game” deal going on for the early to mid part of the merge. I guess what I mean by us aligning when I said what I said in my opening speech, I meant it more as an open and direct line of strategic discussion with Yousef, which I did not have in the slightest during those first two votes, even if we did have that “Keep The Threats” thing you were saying. About the Flushing the idol play! I think we are all tired of talking about that at this point, but yeah, I over estimated my input into getting that to happen. From my perspective, I said the thing in the chat, and then you played your idol, so from where I was standing, I just assumed that was the reason. I don’t think I ever asked you while you were in the game for the reason of why you played it, so hearing your rational for why you used it now, knowing everything I now know from that vote, makes a lotta sense. And I’m glad that I was able to get your vote off of me and onto Andrea, by saying what I said that round. I appreciate the props from you! What is your biggest mistake or regret you did in this game? If I had to narrow it down, I would say that my biggest regret in this game would have to have been the way I handled myself after I voted for certain people in the game. When I voted Karsten at the final 10, I shouldn’t have given him that laundry list of reasons of why I wanted to keep him and that I’m sorry. Looking back, there was no way in hell I could have made that message come off in the way I wanted and I hate myself for doing that. A few more examples of that would have to have been the Bradley and Natalia votes specifically, because I left them with a bad taste in their mouth about me, and if I could go back, I would have just been more straight up with them because that is what they wanted from me, and I couldn’t give them that. The onus for that is is on me, and how I acted during those votes would have to be the thing I consider my biggest mistake and regret in the game. What makes you worthy of winning rather than the other two finalists? ANDREA: I feel like I am worthier of winning over Andrea because I had way more agency in this game compared to her. The entire game I never was the 2nd fiddle to anyone else, I did what was in my best interests at all times, and I knew coming into this game that I wanted to win for myself, and I feel as if Andrea has stated multiple times that she ended up bending to the will of other players, including me, at many points during this season. The only time I can recall me doing something similar was once, during the Hunter vote, where I promptly learned my lesson, and only did what was best for me during every single subsequent vote. JAKE: I feel like I am especially worthier of winning than Jake. During this entire FTC round, Jake has constantly been saying how I didn’t have any “Plan B’s” and that I should have been making these moves that would have put me in an objectively worse position, in the slight “chance” that it would have worked. The difference is, it wouldn’t have worked. Jake said that if I had brought you to the final 5 along with Yousef, then MAYBE there would have been a chance that if I lost they would have taken out one of you… but in this scenario not only did he admit that he’s not even sure that it would have worked (SPOILERS: It wouldn’t have, and we all know it) I would have had to have cut Andrea/Karsten at some point to get into this hypothetical scenario, which would have been absolutely horrendous for me. On another note, In this game, I feel like Andrea played a better version of the game Jake is touting as so great. Jake claims that he set himself up in a way where he never would have gone home, yet he is also advocating for me to have taken Yousef to the Final 4 “as a Plan B”, a move that, if it happened, would have most likely ended up eliminating him at the final 4 in either a 3-1 vote, or in a Tiebreaker (And I bet he wouldn’t say anything negative about his “needed challenge win” in this scenario!) I don’t see a scenario at this point, no matter the configuration of players in the game from the final 6 on, that Andrea would not have made it to this FTC, where as I have just pointed out a way where Jake would have been cut at the very end. I deserve to win over Jake because he followed my lead during so much of this game. The people that I wanted to vote out, were voted out, and Jake followed along with what I was doing, because he was planning on cutting me at the end. Guess what he couldn’t do? Cut me. This entire game is about weighing the odds, and taking risks. I had to take a risk to rely on those last 2 immunity wins to get myself to where I am now, but I had my plan in place, and I made sure I gave myself the best possible chance to accomplish my plan… and it paid off! I was able to do what I set out to do. both strategically, socially, and physically. The end game played out in the way that was beneficial to me, and that wasn’t an accident. Jake followed my lead, and was not able to get what he wanted to happen, because he underestimated me and my dedication to this game.

What is every jurors’ downfall? Oh boy you want us to sweat, don’t you? Questions like these are the hardest but here goes nothing I guess: Lex: I think Lex was screwed just by the numbers coming into the merge, people were scared to push the first definitive name between Karsten and Lex, and when Hunter pushed for Lex to go at the last minute because a decision had to be made, there was nothing that could be done really.

Hunter: I feel as if Hunter was too aggressive on the Lex vote, and it soured a lot of people on him. It didn’t help him that people thought he had a bunch of advantages from the 24 Hour madness & Auction. There was a lot of mystery around what he could have had, and that scared a lot of people.

Bradley: Blindsiding me during the Hunter vote. I was committed with HEEB at that point, and especially with Bradley. And if that didn’t happen, I don’t think he would have been eliminated in this spot. But when he turned his back on me, I had to shake up how I was playing.

Natalia: I would say Natalia’s downfall was when she was planning to make the big move, she didn’t include the right people. There is a good chance if she included me and wanted to pull off some big blindside that wasn’t in “The Cow Club’s” best interests, I could have been swayed, but I was left out of her plans it made me and others feel like we weren’t in her long term plans, and a person like that is a huge threat to me.

Elmo: Absolutely nothing! Robbed King! I’m joking :P on a more serious note, I would say that your downfall was not getting Yousef to use his idol on you this round. I think he was VERY close to using it on you, but when you told Su some info that you shouldn’t have, that possibility went out the window. I think you being a huge physical threat to me also didn’t help your case, but as for your downfall, I think it was not being able to keep either your idol from last round, or get Yousef to use his idol on you.

Su: I think Su’s downfall is a much tricky to pin down. No matter what happened this tribal, there were was gonna be only 2 people NOT immune, which really screws up the strategy for a lot of people, because having such limited options makes it come down to if “Person A” is better for your game in the next vote, or “Person B”. I think that Su wasn’t able to convince either Yousef or Myself that it was in our best interest to keep him that round, or at the very least to keep him to get someone else out that round instead.

Yousef: I think Yousef’s downfall was playing too hard, to the point where everyone could see him as the biggest threat left in the game that needed to be voted out. Especially when it comes down to the end like that, where everyone can see that bringing such a strong player like Yousef with them to the end, would be bad for their respective games, because everyone knows he had a great chance at winning.

Karsten: The man who could get himself out of almost any situation. I think Karsten’s downfall is that in comparison to Andrea/Jake/Myself his game stands out. There are so many different ways to get to the end of the game, and all are valid, because there is more than one “correct” way to get to the end. The way he played the game and his uncanny ability to make it past every vote he was on the chopping block for until the final 4. Karsten made us all fear him, because nobody knows what the jury is thinking, or what they value most when it comes to everyone’s games, and that is what lead to his elimination.

PHEW. With that done, I hope the jury doesn’t hate me, thanks for that Elmo lol. Once again I just wanna say thank you for saying what you said about my game, and I hope that with everything I have said here tonight, I have done enough to earn your respect and your jury vote. Can’t wait to catch up after this tribal. 🔁